Back Chatter During Podcamp Ireland
Sunday Qik Tech Take

Enormous Conversation about Twitter

OLMR Roseanne

DURING PODCAMP IRELAND TODAY, Roseanne Smith's talk about Twitter generated some interesting back chatter in the Online Meeting Rooms session. I almost dropped our DV webcam twice during the talk but I managed to get the back chatter from the conversation and I'm sharing it here for others to read.

roseanne >> : audio coming
roseanne >> : roseanne smith--why twitter?
Jonathan >> : Audio is pretty hard to follow, currently - same for you, Joe?
markmedia1 >> : same here on audio
Joe >> : she's moving around and not mic'd up we are capturing audio through camera
Jonathan >> : Sure, but it's breaking up too - not just camera mic issues.
roseanne >> : we need to have a router behind the main lectern that pre-empts normal wifi.
markmedia1 >> : can yall see her? I can only see guests.
Jonathan >> : Damn. Specs plus hat. I lose.
Joe >> : yes can see her
eske >> : i can see her
Joe >> : move window from over her. You can go full screen guys
Jonathan >> : I can see myself, Mikethebee, Mikethebee's hat, and Roseanne. Nobody else, if anyone's transmitting.
roseanne >> : I see mickthebee's hat!
lexia >> : thinking this is a shadow rosanne
roseanne >> : bernie is roseanne's typist
lexia >> : Hi Gabriela
Jonathan >> : My fave Twitter use so far: Mars Phoenix tweeting (in the first person) from Mars: http://twitter.com/Marsphoenix
Joe >> : mike where in the world are you?
mikethebee >> : I'm in Dingle this weekend, for a family do.
markmedia1 >> : my fav. is @joannageary, journalist in birmingham uk. Uses it as a conversational tool to talk with her readers
mikethebee >> : Amazing isnt it, I'm actually up a mountain, 1Mb/1MbWireless
Joe >> : dv cam kickin the arse out of webcam!
lexia >> : Hi Gav
mikethebee >> : I'm getting good pics, the sounds is a bit broken
Joe >> : ill drop your resolution a little
mikethebee >> : Its better than Stickam and less CPU intensive
Jonathan >> : Same here, Mike. Picture quality is impressive, but sound is breaking up.
mikethebee >> : And will those peeps stop coughing so loudly
Joe >> : at least you cant catch the cold!
Jonathan >> : #include "lozenge.h"
lexia >> : Well, posting lots of jobs to Twitter might piss off users
mikethebee >> : That include is a cough filter is it ?
lexia >> : So RecruitIreland maybe are playing it safe
Joe
>> : they could do it with rss on jaiku and post jobs that way
mikethebee >> : Or indenti,ca as a source system inhouse
lexia >> : I suppose. But Jaiku probably wouldn't hit as many people
markmedia1
>> : how would it be a problem? Surely you chose whom to follow
Joe >> : jaiku has a ways to go alright
mikethebee >> : If I change the bandwidth setting in my GUI does it do anythng
Jonathan >> : Things like TweetDeck help. I think we'll see gradually more sophisticated tools, just as we did for feeds.
markmedia1 >> (All): jaiku has a much bigger following in Sweden than Twitter
Joe >> : i have your bandwidth optimised mike
Joe >> : krishna sitting down the back
roseanne >> : we need better lighting all around or we need to force people into lighted positions,.
lexia >> : Well, even if your updates are locked. The conversation isn't private, right? DMs are private
markmedia1 >> : *only* dms are private.
mikethebee
>> : Twitter is not guarrented private
Jonathan >> : Hence the corporate systems which seemed to be all over TC50.
mikethebee >> : True but commercial systems set expectations
roseanne >> : I've received inadvertent DMs sent on the public timeline from a poorly executed DM webform at twitter.com
markmedia1 >> : twitter is about transperency in conversation. There are better systems for private conversations.
mikethebee >> : exactly
markmedia1 >> : and thats why companies need to start to use it as a tool to actually converse *with* the user base insread of a broadcast medium to talk *at* the user base
Jonathan >> : Ditto. Will see if that helps for audio from Kilkenny. Can't really follow this currently.
lexia
>> : I kind of like the broadcast medium. It's a flattener.
markmedia1
>> : there is a place for both but companies need to understand that there is a difference and create differentiate between them. Different twitter chanells for different purposes
lexia >> : threads will not happen for Twitter. I may be completely wrong though!
markmedia1 >> : there are already third party threaders. Maybe twitter will buy one like they did summize.
mikethebee >> : Just like fax,email, phone, mail
Jonathan >> : Do we know what Twitter's business model is yet? How sustainable is the platform, really?
eske >> : right now 3rd party threaders don't work very well
markmedia1 >> : business model? hahahahahahahahaha
mikethebee >> : what about Jama (sp?) is it
Jonathan >> : Quite. Scary to build on top of something that seems fragically, both technically and economically. Mind you, it worked out for YouTube.
mikethebee >> : I think mybe the sound gating is wrong
Jonathan >> : ("fragically"?! I think that should have been "fragile")
markmedia1 >> : twitter in and of its self is not important. It has (or is) a proof of concept for micro blogging.
Jonathan >> : Good spot, Mike. Something odd going on with echos, and cut-out on peaks. Does sound like a processing issue.
markmedia1 >> : there will be other better itterations, but micro blogging as a platform is here to stay
Jonathan >> : Entirely agree.
lexia >> : Is there anyone on the floor with a microphone?
Joe >> : no
lexia >> : My lipreading is rusty
Jonathan
>> : My use of Twitter: substitute for office chat / mulling stuff over / pointing things out to work-mates. I'm currently working from home, alone.
markmedia1
>> : so what need to happen is for companies/organisations/politics etc to get its head around the change in the communication system and not get hung up on individual names like twitter or second life.
lexia >> : Mark, I think it's more of a brand association - like Hoover for a vaccum cleaner
Jonathan >> : Yes. Learn the lesson, then apply it in whatever precise system(s) best reach your audience.
lexia >> : Or will be in the future
markmedia1 >> : lexia, that may well be true. And hover as a company is fucked LOL
Jonathan >> : The biggie, for me, is that my Twitter stream seems open, while my Facebook status feels locked behind Facebook's doors.
eske >> : couldn't find anything on "jama" - but "quotably" didn't do much for me in relation to threaded conversations -  gimme a heads up if you know of something better.
markmedia1 >> : @jonathan yes. Data portability and the ability to take your possie with you will be a defining issue I think. Try tweader.com
eske >> : nice one Mark - will check out
markmedia1 >> : not perfect but a step on the road
mikethebee >> : Jama or whatever was something FIR/jangles mentioned in a business context. Jason C was promoting it.
lexia >> : Blogs and Twitter don't compete. Different horses for different courses.
mikethebee >> : I find FB excludes me from what should be open conversations
markmedia1 >> : @lexia agree. Though I find I personally have almost stopped blogging due to getting shit out quick and dirty on twitter
lexia >> : @markmedia It can be tempting, alright
markmedia1 >> : but I think both the Liverpool Daily Post and the Birmingham Post are excellent examples of how to interconnect twitter with blogs and better serve your audience
roseanne >> : wrapping up here
mikethebee >> : Thanks all
Jonathan >> : Cool. Thanks everyone.
roseanne >> : bye bye jonathan
Jonathan >> : Cheers Bernie!
lexia >> : Nice work, Bernie. Impressive
roseanne >> : got you now! And thanks for all the back room help, Joe.
markmedia1 >> : thanks to all. Great to be able to attend from Sweden :-)
eske >> : thanks guys
lexia >> : bye guys
Jonathan >> : Yup, hard to hear sound, but interesting tool, this. Bye all!
roseanne >> : we're wrapping up here and really appreciate seeing 8 people watch Roseanne.
Joe >> : all the best to everyone
markmedia1 >> : see you all on twitter :-)
Joe >> : onlinemeetings is my twitter account feel free
markmedia1
>> : and I am markmedia on twitter
eske >> : Good job Joe -  thanks
roseanne >> : Joe gave up his saturday to support Kilkenny and that's much appreciated.
Joe >> : i enjoyed it too fella!


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